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tenebrion P.P.R.S. Site Admin
Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 146
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Posted: July 19, 2007, 8:31 pm Post subject: Possible moving ectoplasm |
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This photo was captured on a Minolta 35 MM camera with 400 speed film in the first class swimming pool area of the Queen Mary by PPRS team member Tiffany. There was no strap and Her hair was tied back. When coming down the stairs it was just to the right of the slide.This was in this same area in one of Beyond Investigations evp sessions earlier in the year. They would ask a question and the temperature would drop 10 degrees and then go back up. We have done many experiments to recreate the photo by trying to reproduce the same Environment, but to no avail. After researching other photos of possible moving ecto or pre manifestation we are seeing a repeating pattern of a ribbed movement.
In no way do we claim that this IS paranormal.
More studies need to be done.
Thank you
Director of PPRS
Syd Schultz II
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Posted: August 10, 2007, 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for your opinion.
Please check out Leslie's website for her photos.
http://southernspiritseekersociety.com
Thank you
Director of PPRS
Syd Schultz II
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DivaBoo P.P.R.S. Member

Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 31 Location: Whittier, CA
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Posted: August 10, 2007, 11:41 am Post subject: Leslie's photos... |
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I enjoyed the photographs. Really nice, but I didn't see anything that I would conclude as paranormal. I saw lots of moisture orbs (some very colorful that were interesting, pretty hues) and one picture of two human type forms within the trees/bushes. Do you feel that these are spirits of some type? I can't say that they're not since I haven't "experienced" the same vibe as you have being in that location, but I am not sure if it's not just another example of matrixing as you concluded from the QM picture at the pool. I was there that day when the picture was taken and there was A LOT of stuff going on that night. I wish you could have been there because otherwise you'd have a different opinion of the odd experiences we had while filming/shooting/recording there. As for what you experienced at the sight in your photographs, only you know if it felt like something was reaching out to you. Thanks for sharing your photos with us!
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tenebrion P.P.R.S. Site Admin
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Posted: August 11, 2007, 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| syd, do you have the original?
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Vixendevil P.P.R.S. Site Admin

Joined: 09 Aug 2006 Posts: 88 Location: Pasadena
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Posted: August 11, 2007, 11:48 am Post subject: Dennis |
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| Its 35mm film.. and we have the negative!
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tenebrion P.P.R.S. Site Admin
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Posted: August 11, 2007, 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Looking even further at this picture. I can also see where this might even be the camera strap having flipped into view. The pattern inside does suggest this and the fact that there is a solid strand in the middle. |
I now figured since there was no Exif ID. I found the camera it was taken with (see attached picture). There is no straps attached to this camera.
I do see the *it* being a solid object and the possibly of reflections due to the railings. Although flash reflection would not repeat like that, seeing that the flash goes off once when the shutter is released on that camera.
To cause a repeating pattern would have to flash or flicker faster than the camera's shutter speed; the only type of lights known to do this other than strobes is florescent lights, and sometimes IR/LED (depending on the circuitry design). Exposure on a film is linear to time. At most a camera flash would be two for red-eye reduction.
The file used was confirmed as iso-400 and the camera was set to use the faster speed which seems to reduce motion blur.
Thanks for the input on this.
| Quote: | | I hate to sound so straight forward, but people have posted way too much out there claiming its paranormal. Then you have so many people upset about what they have been told is paranormal and its not in any way, so then we have this problem... |
Same here, after upgrading and improving to better equipment, we been able to reduce many false positives. I'm not psychic nore medium, but I am a tech. I love to play with any type of equipment. I do have photography experience in the technical aspect...I do own a SLR camera as well as a very good digital camera...For audio I am a perfectionist with sound and same goes to video.
The picture was posted by Syd, I left my profile logged in and he posted it.
Les,
Do you have a site with any best shots we could look look at? Thanks.
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::DorchaMéaróg::
Joined: 10 Jul 2009 Posts: 1 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: July 10, 2009, 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Interesting shot. The consistency of the banding towards the bottom of the lit form leads me to conclude that something close to the camera lens caught the flash and was moving fast enough to create a stuttered motion blur, though that's a pretty rare effect to get on 35mm (very common for digital).
The question is what it could've been.
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